This is our story.

We're on a mission to break traditional marketing, and build one unconventional way to be a better PMM.

Who the hell are we?

Today, you're being misunderstood as a product marketer. And misused because of it. We’re on a mission to fix that - get clarity on PMM in B2B SaaS.

You're more than a marketer.

What first started in 2023 as a ranting vent session — among 3 soon-to-be-homies on LinkedIn — about being product marketers in B2B SaaS. Today has become a somewhat odd podcast with skeletons that attracts 100+ unique listeners tuning in on each episode, across different parts of the globe.  

If you don't think you're a marketer, that's okay — we don't think so either.

Meet the Team*

*If you reaally have to know.

Eric Holland

Marketers can't stand his positioning. So they take a seat instead.

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Gab Bujold

He doesn't eat empty carbs. Nor tolerate crappy messaging either.

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Zach Roberts

Sales-trained product marketer who LOVES rollerblading.

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